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Faxel 1 Hello! Anyone here for the skating meeting?
BrendaW660 Hi, Faxel. Others will be along soon.
BrendaW660 Right now it's just us two.
BrendaW660 Is this your first time here?
Faxel 1 It's my second time. I tried for the past couple of weeks but I must have been in the wrong place:)
BrendaW660 Sorry. Maybe you were ... I know there were forums then.
BrendaW660 Did you see the note about forum topics?
Faxel 1 My fault, probably. Glad to find you. So it's photograpohy today, right?
BrendaW660 Right! I tried to send e-mail out to everyone I could think of on Monday to alert
Faxel 1 That's photography!
BrendaW660 them to the topics but I had major problems sending mail. I finally begged off
BrendaW660 on LeeAnn and asked her to try.
Faxel 1 Do you take pictures at skating events?
BrendaW660 Usually we wind up with about eight people or so on, sometimes more, and I'd like to build that up som
BrendaW660 Yes, I do.
BrendaW660 I'm working on a photo album now of skating pictures.
Weezer11 Hi guys!
BrendaW660 Hey, LeeAnn, how are you??
BrendaW660 Thanks for sending out that note about forum and the usfsa news release
Weezer11 Pretty good, thanks.
Weezer11 Your welcome. I'm sorry I didn't get it out sooner, but I had problems with my mailing system
Weezer11 that night also.
HLSmith1 Hello
BrendaW660 Hi, HL
HLSmith1 Hi
Faxel 1 Yes, it's great to know what's going on. I'd like to be more involved in this if I can.
BrendaW660 Maybe we can give everyone just acuople more minutes, then we can get started.
BrendaW660 oops, that's "a couple"
Weezer11 Brenda, did you get the hosting requests I passed on?
BrendaW660 Nope, I didn't, LeeAnn.
Faxel 1 Okay, I'll start. What film are you guys using for skating photography?
Weezer11 I just sent them today. Maybe they're still in your mailbox?
Weezer11 Good question, I've been wondering what is best, myself.
BrendaW660 Faxel, I use either ASA 1000 or 1600
BrendaW660 Here's why: obviously, we can't use flash.
Weezer11 Brenda, what is ASA?
BrendaW660 Sorry, I'll back up a little and explain
Faxel 1 Is that Kodak? I've been using Ektar 1000 for years, but now they're discontinuing it.
BrendaW660 ASA is the speed rating on the film. THe higher the number, the less light
BrendaW660 has to hit the film to provide proper exposure.
Faxel 1 They're coming up with another brand, "Royal 1000. Does anyone know anything about it?
BrendaW660 So, obviously since we can't use flash because of the skaters' safety, I use a very
Weezer11 Are the pictures grainier also?
BrendaW660 "fast" film.
Weezer11 No I haven't.
BrendaW660 If you have a high enough speed for the lighting situation, you'd be surprised that they're not grainy
BrendaW660 Hi, SuzyMa, welcome to figure skating forum.
Faxel 1 That's why I love Ekatar. It's NOT grainy.
SuzyMa1294 what kind of lense do you use?
BrendaW660 I try to use ASA 1000 if I know the house lights are up, as in a competition.
Weezer11 At the exhibitions, they aren't saying anything about not using a flash. Does that make a difference?
Faxel 1 That's "Ektar"
BrendaW660 I use Ektar too, Faxel.
BrendaW660 At the exhibitions I've been to, they still announce "no flash photography."
BrendaW660 It's a safety issue.
Faxel 1 Flash makes no difference at that distance. It's just a hazard for skaters and of no benefit to you.
BrendaW660 In one situation, I actually had an arena not allow the camera in at all.
BrendaW660 Right, Faxel, exactly.
Weezer11 They haven't here. Actually, the place was nuts with flashes.
BrendaW660 That's too bad, because it is dangerous.
Weezer11 But I know it still isn't safe.
BrendaW660 Like Faxel said, the flash from that distance doesn't help the photo anyway,
BrendaW660 so why use it?
Weezer11 In the exhibitions with the house lights down, what do you use?
Weezer11 Good point, Brenda.
BrendaW660 I use 1600 ASA
Faxel 1 It's getting to be quite a problem. Most places don't allow flash photography, but the guards/ushers
Weezer11 Brenda, is that grainy?
Faxel 1 can't tell the difference and don't allow any cameras at all.
SuzyMa1294 flash is too distracting, loose concentration
BrendaW660 I haven't had a problem with graininess, but I guess it depends on your use.
BrendaW660 If you blew it up to 8 x 10, maybe it would be. But I've found that the high speed is OK for
BrendaW660 regular shots as well as reproduction in newspapers, etc.
Faxel 1 Brenda, do you use it under spotlight conditions?
Weezer11 If you use 1000 at an exhibition, are te pictures dark?
SuzyMa1294 what lense is best to use?
BrendaW660 Spotlights are tough for good results no matter whatt film you use.
Faxel 1 The lower the F stop, the better. 2.8 or 3.5 works best.
BrendaW660 Because the subject is flooded w/ light (too much, really).
BrendaW660 1000 could be OK at an exhibition, it depends on the lighting. It also depends on how long a lens yo
BrendaW660 you're using.
Weezer11 I'll be using a cannon 75-300 lense.
Faxel 1 I use 70 to 200. With Ektar it works great, but now I wonder what I'm going to do.
Weezer11 I think the f stop is something like 4-4.5. Does that sound right?
Faxel 1 Oops. I mean 70 to 210. 4 to 4.5 is okay, but not as good as 3.5 or 2.8.
SuzyMa1294 anyone here going to the Nationals
Weezer11 But they're so expensive.
BrendaW660 I am, Suzy.
Weezer11 Probably, Suzy.
BrendaW660 What's so expensive?
Faxel 1 Also depends how close you sit to the ice. Front row is okay with 4.5, but higher up it's not.
Weezer11 the smaller f stop lenses.
BrendaW660 Weezer, whaddaya mean probably?
BrendaW660 :()
BrendaW660 True ...
Weezer11 I mean, as long as I have any control over it, I'm going. :D But who knows. If I'm maimed two weeks
BrendaW660 My pride and joy is the set of shots from Skate America 1992 when I had second row seats.
BrendaW660 Used a 70-300 zoom and was in heaven. :)
Weezer11 before hand, I rather doubt I'll make it. :)
Faxel 1 My best shots are from Stars on Ice and World Tour last year.
BrendaW660 Stars on Ice is good for photos. I like the way they do lighting.
Weezer11 I've been doing alright this year, but only because I've been moving closer to the ice from my origina
BrendaW660 It's not so overwhelming with the spots. I had terrrible seats for Stars this year,
Faxel 1 70 to 300? Wow. What brand is your camera?
Weezer11 seats.
BrendaW660 though, so I didn't even take my camera out of the back.
Weezer11 Janet said I'm a seat pirate and that she's going to get my an eyepatch. :D
BrendaW660 Canon. But the zoom lens is another brand, can't remember which.
Faxel 1 Mine is Cannon, too.
BrendaW660 I do have one horror story about film, though.
Weezer11 do tell
Faxel 1 Oh?
BrendaW660 I can usually get by with 400 ASA in an arena that's fully lit ... say, in a competition.
BrendaW660 I went down to do a story on the Stars on Ice stop in Florida, and took a combination of film.
BrendaW660 I attended their practice before the show and even with every light in the arena up , it was too dim
BrendaW660 for 400. I missed a slew of practice/at leisure shots of the skaters.
BrendaW660 That's why I 've revised my advice to 1000 even for competition. :)
BrendaW660 I managed to cull a few shots out to send American Skating World, but it was pretty pitiful.
Faxel 1 Regular 1000 is too grainy, though. Any good alternatives to Ektar?
Weezer11 Maybe the royal brand will be good. When is Ektar going out of stock?
Faxel 1 They stopped producing it, but most stores still have it in stock.
BrendaW660 I hate to see Ektar go ... I really don't have any good dvice on that one.
Weezer11 Why did they stop?
BrendaW660 I guess I'm lucky to have some on hand for the Campbell's show this weekend.
BrendaW660 You could ltry "pushing" a slower film, but I've had mixed results with that.
Faxel 1 No idea! Probably wasn't advertised right.
Weezer11 what is pushing?
BrendaW660 You buy, say, 400 ASA film but set your camera for 800. Then when it's developed, tell them to "push"
BrendaW660 it once in development. It will expose as 800.
BrendaW660 Warning: this doesn't always have good results.
Faxel 1 They never even sold Ektar in 36 exposures, except by mail orderr from New York.
BrendaW660 Hmm, never noticed, Faxel. I'm trying to think of what brand my 1600 is.
BrendaW660 I guess it's Kodak.
Weezer11 Can you still mail order it Faxel?
Faxel 1 I haven't tried, but I plan to.
BrendaW660 You could try that. Keep it in the frig and it'll last a long time past the
BrendaW660 expiration date. Just take it out from the frig in plenty of time to warm up to
BrendaW660 room temperature before using.
Weezer11 Do you remember what store? I want to get some for the shows I'm seeing this sumer.
Faxel 1 How about if we all write to Kodak and complain?
BrendaW660 Hi, Laura. Welcome to figure skating forum. Our topic tonight is photography.
BrendaW660 Yeah, FAxel!!
LauraP1808 I know
Weezer11 Hey Laura! How are you liking the thunderstorm?
BrendaW660 Tell them we can't shoot our skating shots without Ektar!
LauraP1808 We don't have it yet! Last night we did though
Faxel 1 Can't remember which one, but I can look it up. Or you can try the Sunday N.Y Times or photography
Faxel 1 magazines.
Weezer11 You don't? It's been bad here for a while. My dog was going nuts earlier.
BrendaW660 I don't have any recent photo mags, but I have some old ones. Woudl you mind checking
BrendaW660 it out, Faxel, and we can spread the word?
LauraP1808 I take that back, I hear rain and a far away rumble
Weezer11 I've got Popular Photography now.I'm looking through it. I'll let you know if I find a store.
Faxel 1 I'll be happy to.
HLSmith1 Going for a sec, Do i fill out the f.s. suryey on the boards?
Weezer11 I think so.
BrendaW660 NOt sure ... Lee?
BrendaW660 Here's a question I have for the group ...
Weezer11 I think so, HL and Brenda.
Weezer11 By teh way, Populare photography is also online now. Keyword Photo.
BrendaW660 I love taking spin and jump shots, but invariably I end up with the skater's backside
BrendaW660 no matter when I click the shutter!
LauraP1808 I better go. I have nothing of interest to add to this subject other than have
BrendaW660 Well, not ALL the time but certainly a lot.
LauraP1808 MANY pictures of a certain skater, both stills and in action
Weezer11 Bet I can guess the skater.
BrendaW660 Laura, we'd love to have you stay. You can always tell the story of Jess and the newsppaper
LauraP1808 taken by some great skating photographers
BrendaW660 photographer ...
LauraP1808 You have a great skating photographer right in Lexington. Her name is
LauraP1808 Anna Mae Walker
BrendaW660 Lexington, SC?
Faxel 1 Sorry to be so naive, but which skater are we talking about?
BrendaW660 Laura's daughter, FAxel.
Faxel 1 Ooops!
BrendaW660 We just happened to know. She's a dancer.
Weezer11 Really Laura?
Faxel 1 That's great!
LauraP1808 No, Lexington, Mass where LeeAnn lives
BrendaW660 Weezer, Laura, and I met at Nationals.
LauraP1808 That sounds funny Brenda[g]
BrendaW660 What? That she's a dancer?
BrendaW660 Or that I guessed South Carolina?
Weezer11 I don't believe I've ever met Anna.
Weezer11 Hi Ellen.
BrendaW660 Hi, Ellen.
SuzyMa1294 Laura you're from Mass.??
E Dunkel Hi
Weezer11 Laura and I both live in Mass.
SuzyMa1294 so do I
BrendaW660 Ellen, our topic for tonight is photography.
Faxel 1 I was in Boston just a couple of weeks ago!
LauraP1808 Hi Ellen I was just writing you a note when I remembered it was Thursday
BrendaW660 We're in a brief intermission frm that topic. :)
LauraP1808 What were you doing here? Where were you? I'm nosey
Weezer11 Where, Suzy?
SuzyMa1294 fall river
E Dunkel Thanks, Brenda. I really just stopped by briefly.
Weezer11 I'm Lexington.
BrendaW660 Laura isn't nosy, she's just a reporter at heart. :)
LauraP1808 I'm in Beachmont[Revere-Winthrop]
E Dunkel I have lots of schoolwork.
Weezer11 Too bad we all aren't a bit closer.
LauraP1808 Yes, but notice I didn't get an answer[g]
BrendaW660 I know ...
Weezer11 Working hard, Ellen?
BrendaW660 But we're in the same room now. :)
Faxel 1 True, Brenda!
BrendaW660 Hey, Kate.
LauraP1808 Suzy, do you know any of the skaters from down your way?
KYDungca hi there
Weezer11 That's true.
Weezer11 Hey Kate. :D
SuzyMa1294 unfortunately I missed the last two weeks
E Dunkel Yes, very hard!
LauraP1808 Now Kate is the one who can help with your action shots Brenda
KYDungca I tried to get home as fast as I could. Did I miss much?
BrendaW660 I know ... I wish she had been here earlier. But we've only covered film speed, lenses,
Faxel 1 Are you looking for shots of any particular skater?
E Dunkel My computer's super-slow tonight! Or is it AOL?
SuzyMa1294 I know a couple of local kids, one's 11 and the other 15
BrendaW660 and the skaters' backsides I get in spins already. :)
LauraP1808 Jason Sylvia, a very good junior man is from New Bedford area
KYDungca I have tons of butt shots. It's an inevitability.
Faxel 1 I've given up on spins and jumps!
HLSmith1 bye,gotta go, see ya on the boards.
SuzyMa1294 He is a good skater, he hab a bad day with Paul Wylie at B.U.
BrendaW660 I know, Kate. It's just so funny. I used to click the shutter when a skater would come 'round
KYDungca Although I do have good spin sequence of Brian from his exhibition at Nationals
BrendaW660 my direction. I got backsides. Then I decided, OK, I'll click the shutter when I see their backsides
KYDungca You have to set up for them when you know they'll be coming around.
Faxel 1 Paul is a great subject for skating photography!
BrendaW660 Didn't work in the inverse. But I still get some good shhots.
Weezer11 I have a knack for the butt thing, but also for getting them with their tongues hanging out.
BrendaW660 Faxel, one way to improve your chances with spins and jumps, at least at a
LauraP1808 Have you taken many pictures of Paul, Faxel? I have some good ones myself
KYDungca Now this is a true talent, Lee!
BrendaW660 competition, is to shoot practices. There are many skaters on the ice at once and you have a better
Faxel 1 I have some nice ones of Paul. Also Brian Orser :)
BrendaW660 chance of pre-focusing on a spot and getting someone to move in it.
KYDungca Have you talked about shutter speeds at al?
SuzyMa1294 I have a good picture of Paul and Nancy with my niece
BrendaW660 Not really, Kate.
BrendaW660 We can resume discussion if you're all ready.
E Dunkel Arehere people I don't know here tonight or are people going by different names?
Faxel 1 Paul holds his positions for a long time, which is great.
BrendaW660 What has everyone experimented with, shutter-wise?
Weezer11 I hae a film question...
LauraP1808 Paul was an easy subject for me because he skated in Boston for so long
KYDungca Brenda, try following the skater with your camera. You'll have a better cjhance of getting good shots
Faxel 1 I usually shoot at 1/250 or 1/180 when it's dark.
BrendaW660 I do, but it works best when they're moving across the frame.
Weezer11 I found the Ektar film at Cambridge Photo. But what is with teh 135-24 and 135-36 choices?
KYDungca I usually keep my shutter at 1/90 and lens wide open. There's still some blur, but I hate using
KYDungca fast film
BrendaW660 It's really annoying to follow a skater all around for the shot. It's just not worth missing the acti
Weezer11 I get that the 24 and 36 are teh exposure numbers, but what is 135?
BrendaW660 I like fast film.
BrendaW660 And there's not enough light even with the shutter that slow, for me, it seems.
Faxel 1 Over 1000 ASA is too grainy for my taste.
E Dunkel Sorry to run off so fast but my computer's driving me nuts and I have tons of work.
KYDungca I know the feeling.
Weezer11 Night Ellen.
LauraP1808 I agree Faxel
KYDungca Lee, which Ektar? 1000?
Weezer11 Kate, what speed film do you use for exhibitions and competitions.
E Dunkel (But I like fast film, too)
Weezer11 Yes, Kate.
BrendaW660 Bye Ellen
Weezer11 And what's the w/p option?
Faxel 1 For competition purposes 400 works fine.
KYDungca I have a few shots in that film and they turned out really grainy, even at the 4x6 print size
KYDungca For competitions, there's much more light. I was pushing my film to 800 to get the best results.
Weezer11 Why don't they make an 800 film? Or do they?
BrendaW660 My experience w/ 1000 is that if the film is correctly exposed you don't get the graininess.
Faxel 1 You need to be very close to the ice if you don't want your shots to be grainy.
KYDungca They do now. Fuji has one
BrendaW660 We discussed "pushing" earlier, Kate.
Weezer11 Is that best?
KYDungca Oh, sorry.
BrendaW660 I'm glad you mentioned that you do it.
Weezer11 Kate, what about exhibitions which is darker?
KYDungca Flash!
BrendaW660 Another important point is where you're getting your light reading from ...
Faxel 1 I only had terrible luck with Fuji. They come out with a blue-greenish tint.
KYDungca That's true-if you point it at the ice, it'll be all underexposed.
KYDungca Really, with Fuji? I get really bright colors with that film. Maybe it's your processing lab?
BrendaW660 Fuji is definitely a strong green film.
Faxel 1 No, I tried it many times over many years.
BrendaW660 But I generally have good results.
Weezer11 Is the Fuji 800 available or not yet?
SuzyMa1294 what ASA number would be best to ue at Providence
KYDungca It is out. There are several places here that carry it. I plan to get some before Campbell's
BrendaW660 i don't know I would think 400 and 1000. What do y'all think?
Faxel 1 Is there any Kodak 800 ASA?
KYDungca Somewhere in that range is about right. But it also depends on your lens.
KYDungca I haven't sen a Kodak 800. If there was, I'd have a case of it by now!
BrendaW660 I haven't seen the Fuji 800 around here ... I'll have to keep an eye out.
SuzyMa1294 I'm an ametur, but I love to experiment, I've taking pictures hanging out car windows
KYDungca Has anyone used slide film for any of their skating photography?
Faxel 1 So who do all of you think are the easiest skaters to photograph?
BrendaW660 I have, Kate. Mostly not great shots, though.
BrendaW660 It's so hard, you have to get the exposure exactly right and the fast speeds just
KYDungca I'm thinking that would be sharper, but I'm not too familiar with good slide films.
BrendaW660 aren't out there.
BrendaW660 I tried "pushing" slide film at the NutraSweet Professional Championships one year and was very disapp
BrendaW660 ointed.
BrendaW660 Hmmm ... the ones who don't move, Faxel. :)
Faxel 1 Yea! :) Mostly women and dancers!
KYDungca The dancers--I keep getting their rears too!
Faxel 1 Katarina's good, too.
KYDungca Brenda, do you know offhand what the fastest slide film available is?
BrendaW660 You know, Nationals this year really opened my eyes to how the pros get the good skating shots.
BrendaW660 I haven't been able to get over 400 ... but I don't know what else might be available in the professio
BrendaW660 nal line.
KYDungca Yeah, they have these big hulking lenses!
Faxel 1 Ouch! They look painful!
BrendaW660 Right, they have these h-u-g-e lenses with the camera body mounted so it just
Weezer11 K&P are great to shoot because -- at least in their vampire program -- the repeat teh same moves a
Weezer11 couple of times.
BrendaW660 rotates with horiz-to-vertical with a flick of the wrist.
BrendaW660 The USFSA photographer show at least a roll of film every two minutes. One guy
BrendaW660 was sitting beside him, and his sole function was to hand film and mark the exposed film.
Faxel 1 I never have enough hands for all I'm trying to do!
KYDungca That sounds like a deal. I want someone like that.
BrendaW660 Indeed. :)
BrendaW660 They also did a dandy good job of obscuring my view of the skaters.
Weezer11 I want some of those photos.
SuzyMa1294 do any of you sell reprints on photos?
Faxel 1 If only we could all get front row seats!
Faxel 1 Who are you interested in, Suzy?
BrendaW660 What skaters do you like, Suzy?
Weezer11 Faxel, it is very easy to move up during the exhibitions. If by Urmanov the seats aren't taken,
Weezer11 they won't be.
BrendaW660 by Urmanov???
Faxel 1 Poor Alexei. He's not SO bad . . .
SuzyMa1294 boitano, wylie, kerrigan, yamaguchi
KYDungca I've got tons of Boitano.
Weezer11 No, he's not, but it's a good rule of thumb.
Faxel 1 Can't help you with Boitano, but I have tons of Paul and some of Kristi.
KYDungca So I have a preference, does it show?
BrendaW660 'fraid I don't have anything good of any of them. I have some good shots of Usova/Zhulin
Weezer11 yes, but that's alright, Kate. ;)
KYDungca I do have one of the Duchesnays right when they're bending over backwards.
BrendaW660 and misc. others
SuzyMa1294 I met Isabella duchesnay
KYDungca It looks like that one that was in Life magazine a few years ago.
BrendaW660 Kate has a Boitano shot that's incredible, in the middle of a death drop.
SuzyMa1294 how could I get copies?
KYDungca Well, he posed for me.
Faxel 1 Send me an e-mail.
SuzyMa1294 OK
KYDungca Send me an e-mail as well, Suzy.
Weezer11 That is a super one, Kate.
KYDungca I plan to add to the collection this summer.
SuzyMa1294 I'll be e-mailing this weekend, OK?
Faxel 1 If anyone has good shots of Brian Orser, I can always use them :)
Weezer11 Hello TC Prez.
TC PREZ hi All! Any Elvis fans out there?
SuzyMa1294 he's great TC
BrendaW660 Hi ,Brwn
BrendaW660 Welcome to figure skating forum. Tonight's topic is photography
KYDungca Hi Julie
TC PREZ I need some downloadable shots of him for an article. Any body got anything for me?
JulieD3964 Hi all
Weezer11 Hi Julie!
BrendaW660 Hi, Julie!!!
BrwnEyeMan Howdy Folks
TC PREZ hi Julie!
Weezer11 Hey Brenda, are you logging?
BrendaW660 Hi, Sklar.
KYDungca Sklar!
JulieD3964 I'm just here for a minute as I'm still packing
Mr Toy *Yawnn* Hi Everyone!
BrendaW660 Yes, I think I am, LeeAnn. I hope it works, because we've had a lot of good discussion.
BrendaW660 Are we boring you, Mr. Toy? :)
SuzyMa1294 Hi Mr. Toy
KYDungca Hey, it's still daylight. Why are you yawning?
BrendaW660 Yay, Julie's packing.
Mr Toy What's up, Julie?
BrendaW660 not here, Kate.
Weezer11 If not, I've been logging too,but I think I lost my log from last week.
SuzyMa1294 still daylight?? 11pm here
Weezer11 HiSklar!
JulieD3964 I'm packing Sklar
Faxel 1 Things were a lot more interesting 10 minutes ago. Everyone wake up, eh?
Mr Toy Just woke up from a nap, Kate...
TC PREZ I get the feeling everyone here knows everybody else! Am I right?
BrendaW660 Does anyone else want to bring up a photography suggestion/question?
JulieD3964 That should have had a comma after :packing"
BrendaW660 If not, we can turn over to general discussion. It's nearly 11.
Weezer11 Julie, where are you going?
JulieD3964 I have a question!
BrendaW660 To *my* house.
BrendaW660 What, Julie?
Mr Toy Hi, Weezer (please identify? DUH!)
Weezer11 <---- LeeAnn
KYDungca Sounds like fun.
BrendaW660 TC, several of us have met in person and have talked for a good while here online.
JulieD3964 Why do all of my skating photos have black spots on them?
SuzyMa1294 I must be going, busy court docket in am.
BrendaW660 You could have dirt in your camera or on the lens.
Faxel 1 What black spots?!?
KYDungca Is it always on the same place of the photo?
BrendaW660 Night, Suzy.
TC PREZ Thanks, just curious.
JulieD3964 But they're the pictures YOU took
SuzyMa1294 Goodnight All, thanks for the advice on photography
BrendaW660 huh?
JulieD3964 that YOU gave me
BrendaW660 Oh, I know what you're talking about. It was just one or two pictures, right?
BrendaW660 That was the lab ...
JulieD3964 Oh
Faxel 1 I haven't seen any photos with spots.
BrendaW660 The entire roll wasn't that way, I don't think.
Weezer11 speaking of labs, which are best and which should you stay away from?
BrendaW660 It was dirt from the negative. They apparently didn't blow it or anything.
Mr Toy Speaking of photography, still have yet to get a new camcorder....does anyone know which is the best
BrendaW660 I hate it when that happens.
Faxel 1 Depends on the people staffing the lab. If you find a good one, stick with it.
Mr Toy for videotaping fast movement?
Faxel 1 For videotaping, speed makes no difference. You need one for low light conditions.
Faxel 1 That's low lux.
Mr Toy Eh, that reminded me.......I had to withdraw my order for a ticket to Providence due to $$$ problems..
BrendaW660 ouch, Sklar
Mr Toy Faxel, it does....I borrowed my friend's Sony CCD-710(?) camcorder for the last 2 years and in video
Mr Toy taping,
Faxel 1 Off the subject. Have you guys seen the Life with Oksana?
Weezer11 Sorry to hear it Sklar. Have the online police caught up with you again?
Mr Toy the autofocus could not focus fast enough.....
BrendaW660 When, FAxel?
BrendaW660 This month's issue?
Mr Toy My old RCA Pro Edit camcorder which I sold (because I thought full size VHS camcorders
Faxel 1 Ooops. I guess I don't know as much about video as I thought. I have a little Sony which works great.
Mr Toy were phasing out)
Faxel 1 It's the current issue, just came out.
Mr Toy focuses really quickly to match my following of a skater at full speed
Faxel 1 Oksana talks about Nancy not talking to her anymore since she won.
Weezer11 I heard about that Faxel.
BrendaW660 hmmm
Mr Toy <--- been having problems with my student loan checks.....my school had been inadvertantly sending
Mr Toy them back to my lenders....at the end of March, I was told they were cancelled, and I was out the
JulieD3964 Anything special I need to bring Brenda? (besides tickets)
Mr Toy $4,200 I was expecting to use clear me out of all of my bills
BrendaW660 Just yourself, Julie.
BrendaW660 I have to run in a minute and finish cleaning up the house. :)
JulieD3964 I have to pack!!!!!
BrendaW660 Better hurry!
Mr Toy ........But now I finally got a new job, going for a second, and hope to be able to buy a ticket again
Weezer11 OUCH!, Skalr.
Mr Toy by August
JulieD3964 And I have to BE at work at 6:30 am
Mr Toy What's the event for the 2 of you, Brenda and Julie?
BrendaW660 Campbell's Tour.
JulieD3964 We're going waterskiing
JulieD3964 And I'm going to play the ukelele
Faxel 1 Some people have all the fun!
BrendaW660 LOL, Julie. Believe it or not, there is a lake here that's on the Bud Water Ski Tour.
KYDungca I need to go as well. Did anyone log tonight?
Mr Toy Really? Waterskiing at Cape Fear?
JulieD3964 And we're going to accost foreigners in odd places
Mr Toy Well, I missed the Pro-Ams due to a tight budget at the time...hopefully, I have the money to get a
BrendaW660 OK, guys, I'm closing the log.
Mr Toy ticket to the Campbell's tour.....and fast!